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The Ignorance of Middle East Muslims

September 13, 2012 by Leave a Comment

Things are heating up, as they always do following the believers of Islam going wild over one insult or another. The news can been seen as trivial and banal, same old anger over the same old topics, some can see it as intended aggravation of a group of people known for being easily angered over anything to do with their religion, others might see it as yet another attempt to force the West into giving up its core values – “or else”.

This morning some news channels set up a live stream broadcast of “demonstrations” in Cairo, I’m no expert but all I could see were small groups of what seemed to be like young men throwing things at a group of armored vehicles and police. Attacking Egyptian police over a movie produced in the U.S. is as ridicules as attacking an American embassy over that same movie.

The only real excuse for attacking people who are clearly not related in any way to a production of a movie that angers them, Muslims can only say that they do not know (or realize) that people in the West are free to create and produce whatever they want as long as they do not infringe on the rights of other people. If Muslims actually think that the whole of the U.S. with its vast population is under continuous authority scrutiny and that any creative process is a result of permission and not basic liberty than they might have a real argument in going against the US embassy in Cairo.

This exposes these Muslim thugs for what they are, ignorant and without any idea of what real democracy means. Here is a short quotation from yesterday’s news “if your freedom of expression is without limits you must accept our freedom of action”.

A Clear Threat – With No Understanding of Democracy

This sentence alone shows how ignorant these people are. A clear threat is made and it puts two very different things on the different sides of the equation, one the one side freedom of speech and on the other violence and aggression on whatever whim it may be.

Freedom of expression is without limits because it directly follows thought, the idea behind the freedom to speak your mind is that ideas can be let out into the world without fear, this is what makes this current civilization great – the free and fast exchange of ideas, the adoption of some of them and the ridicule of others, but nonetheless free and constant exchange of thoughts which are expressed by speech. To claim that if you “force” freedom of speech (on people in Cairo – from a film produced in California U.S.A. mind you) the other side can literally force physical damage upon the speaker is outrageous and dangerous.

And this is how these people think and how they act. There is no difference between murdering someone who thinks differently to you to that same person expressing his mind about that topic, in the end it all means that same thing, Muslims do not accept the freedom of speech and much worst than that they actively search for things that may insult them in lands far, far away from their own to orchestrate murderous festivals.

 

Filed Under: Egypt, Free Speech Tagged With: Cairo US Embassy riots, Egypt Muhammed movie riots, freedom of speech, Islam v freedom of speech, Muhammad movie

Who Made the Muhammed Movie – and Why?

September 12, 2012 by Leave a Comment

Its appears that a man named Sam Bacile is the writer-producer-director of the film that set Egypt and Libya on fire yesterday, even though the film’s teaser was uploaded to YouTube 2 months ago – took them so long to find out? or was it just a certain day was preferred for the “protests”?

Anyway, Bacile told a few sources (link to some of the info here) that he got the money for the film from “Jewish” investors and that he managed to get $5 million for it. It seems safe to say that anyone over 12 years old who watches this “teaser” can say that this aint no $5 million movie, it is a good amateur theater club production no doubt, with no known actors, no professional acting, no real camera movement and no professional sound (you can easily see how sound has been edited on this short 15 min clip) one has to wonder if this produced knows how to count (money, that is).

Furthermore, Sam Bacile told the press he was an Israeli Jew who had family in Egypt, which is borderline fiction since all Egyptian Jews who live in Israel have been there for many years already and left no one behind. What adds to the notion that this person is in fact Egyptian is that the begging of the teaser shows current day Egypt with Muslims storming Copts (or Christians in general) and the police doing nothing about it.

No need to say that hiding the truth at this point only makes the makers of this rather poor and vulgar teaser look even less respectable than they looked at the start of this thing, however it is important to note that in a normal world no one would have heard about this man or his “film” and that this thing would have been left to dry on the Youtube servers with 12 views.

As usual the issue here is not the quality of a film but the right of anyone to express an opinion, vulgar as it may be it does not pose any threat to anyone out there, you can simply ignore it and go on with your life, the freedom of expression is not just about expression but about freedom of thought, and this is the one single thing that brought Western civilization to enlightenment, let us not forget this.

Do You Believe This Thing Cost $5 Million? We Don’t

* Update (September 14th)

Nakoula Basseley seems to be the real name of the producer of this movie, which started under a working title “Desert Warriors” and ended up being much more about the Islamic faith. The produced is not Israeli or Jewish (as was suggested before) but an Egyptian Christian Copt.

Actors in the movie say that they did not know anything about it being so tied to religion, that they were told that this is a movie about old time in Egypt, some claim that a voiceover was edited onto their lines in post production.

It seems that as more is discovered about the maker of this film the more it looks like one religious believer defaming another religion, and even though this is something that is not elegant it kind of makes sense that an Egyptian copts would have very strong feelings against Muslims in light of the past year’s violence against the Christian Copts in Egypt.

Filed Under: Free Speech Tagged With: Cairo US Embassy riots, Libya US embassy, Muhammed Movie, Sam Bacile